tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post7451533433263349823..comments2023-09-30T07:11:55.493-06:00Comments on MarketFN.com: Stock Market ManipulationInvestment Househttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14771320644915759241noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-28395346022573229292010-10-17T11:52:34.799-06:002010-10-17T11:52:34.799-06:00That's the point, Steve. Thanks.
Bill KraftThat's the point, Steve. Thanks.<br />Bill KraftBill Kraft, MarketFN.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08274803638438137352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-51846592712757764432010-10-16T13:33:27.281-06:002010-10-16T13:33:27.281-06:00The markets are absolutely manipulated by the Fed,...The markets are absolutely manipulated by the Fed, the big banks, large institutional traders, HFT, etc. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool and deserves to have their ass handed to them by the market. It is what it is and you can either accept it and use it to your advantage, or be eaten alive.<br />SteveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-52880359076737071202010-10-08T15:57:23.629-06:002010-10-08T15:57:23.629-06:00Great point, Old Trader. Thank you. When I hear &q...Great point, Old Trader. Thank you. When I hear "it'll come back" I always wonder when, or, for that matter, whether.<br />Bill KraftBill Kraft, MarketFN.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08274803638438137352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-90264418195773444762010-10-08T09:50:06.233-06:002010-10-08T09:50:06.233-06:00And Bill, you can see the overwhelming influence e...And Bill, you can see the overwhelming influence emotion can have on trading decisions. We have commented about this before and I feel emotions are responsible for more than 50% of losses for traders.<br />Beware of: "Oh, I'll wait, it will come back up." These are the most dreadful words to run through any trader's mind. But how do we defeat the emotional response? Training? Discipline? Those are fine until you have Your Real Money in the trade. Many people have a very difficult time selling a declining position, possibly because they cannot stand to "feel" like they were wrong or made a mistake. <br />Some people must realize that they are not mentally and emotionaly suited to trading. Perhaps they should consider a good mutual fund or Bank CDs.<br /><br />The Old Trader<br />dsbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-53803715198168698132010-10-07T13:21:18.437-06:002010-10-07T13:21:18.437-06:00Thanks for sharing that information about the mani...Thanks for sharing that information about the manipulation of the penny stocks, Anonymous. It could be important to many readers.<br />Bill KraftBill Kraft, MarketFN.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08274803638438137352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-13796779322336621202010-10-07T11:40:21.890-06:002010-10-07T11:40:21.890-06:00I am not going to substantiate this but I will tel...I am not going to substantiate this but I will tell you something that is absolutely true that pertains to this post.<br /><br />Years ago and early in my career when I was wet behind the (y)ears I worked as an editor for a small newsletter publishing company. The owner (and publisher) was an extraordinarily talented copywriter -- one of the top copywriters of the decade, in fact. <br /><br />But he had a glitch in his soul....<br /><br />One of his sidelines -- a lucrative one -- was heavy promotion of penny-stock companies on behalf of clients. The game was -- you guessed it -- drive the price of the stock into the stratosphere then dump. <br /><br />BTW, the publisher never clued me in on any of his sideline activities. I learned about them from another person in the company plus I was able to put two and two together. HOWEVER, the experience taught me a valuable lesson which I'll share with Bill's readers: stick to buying real companies producing real products that trade in millions of shares a day. It's too hard (probably impossible) to manipulate biggies like that.<br /><br />Subsidiary lesson: pay attention to position size. <br /><br />Usually I sign my name when I post. This time I'm going to remain anonymous for obvious reasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-70219203341435016952010-10-06T07:36:39.753-06:002010-10-06T07:36:39.753-06:00Thanks, Dean. Your comments are sincerely apprecia...Thanks, Dean. Your comments are sincerely appreciated. It amazes me how nasty folks can get about their political opinions. It really demonstrates how emotion overtakes thought.<br />Bill KraftBill Kraft, MarketFN.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08274803638438137352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-57571897210540653732010-10-06T07:21:44.486-06:002010-10-06T07:21:44.486-06:00The rumor is true:
POMO results a nice 5.190 bill...The rumor is true:<br /><br />POMO results a nice 5.190 billion of liquidity pumped in. <br /><br />http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/pomo/display/index.cfmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-55525082907983027882010-10-05T20:32:35.241-06:002010-10-05T20:32:35.241-06:00Bill,
What a hornet's nest. Such contraversy...Bill, <br />What a hornet's nest. Such contraversy(sp?). People have such heartfelt opinions and political beliefs. These differences make the market work, for every seller there must be a buyer somewhere. Is the market manipulated? The "Flash Crash" comes to mind and is rather widely recognized as a reason that individual investors are leary of getting into the market. I am surprised and disappointed at the number of people that did not understand your original comments. They read only so far and their personal biases were triggered. The proof is clear that their political beliefs are very important to them, regardless of what is really true. <br />Bill, Ignore those that attempt to critize you or belittle you. You, at least, had the courage to broach a very contraversial subject and provide a formum for discussion ( I regret that Spell Check will not help me on this Blog) and debate. For what it is worth, I hold you in high regard and respect your experience. No other newsletter, paid or free, is as helpful as yours. <br />The Old Trader<br />Dean Blissman, Pittsburgh, Pa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-17655485344918495142010-10-05T07:46:16.349-06:002010-10-05T07:46:16.349-06:00Cutting off your nose to spite your face, right Gr...Cutting off your nose to spite your face, right Grant. Wouldn't consider learning something about trading from someone with whom you disagree politically. Very wise sir.<br />Bill KraftBill Kraft, MarketFN.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08274803638438137352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-89333520810053892382010-10-04T18:51:07.092-06:002010-10-04T18:51:07.092-06:00Bill, Wall Street is full of rumors. I recall hear...Bill, Wall Street is full of rumors. I recall hearing some old saying about "Buy on the rumor, sell on the news"? When you helped spread that rumor you let your political stripes show. I get enough rumors about market manipulation withou getting them from some one I've come to trust. Go back and count the number of post who disagreed with you. That's the percent of readers you disapointed. The reason I'm reconsidering a book purchase is because I've lost respect for you, the person who wrote it. Grant Johnston, Chico, caAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-83816818482536829722010-10-04T07:45:54.014-06:002010-10-04T07:45:54.014-06:00My goodness, Grant, I don't get it with you. I...My goodness, Grant, I don't get it with you. I specifically identified it as a rumor although subsequent information tends to confirm it and in no way indicated it was a truth. Though now it looks like it is. I see you only want what's free in life. You say the rest of the newsletter is worth reading but my books are not, now that's a smart approach.<br />Bill KraftBill Kraft, MarketFN.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08274803638438137352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-29535041455723698252010-10-04T04:30:50.719-06:002010-10-04T04:30:50.719-06:00Just as what I wrote, Mr. Mosely, because we heard...Just as what I wrote, Mr. Mosely, because we heard it doesn't make it true. In each case, it simply exposes the possibilities as food for thought. Personally I think thought is good. What about you?<br />Bill KraftBill Kraft, MarketFN.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08274803638438137352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-29139828050891110972010-10-04T04:29:50.717-06:002010-10-04T04:29:50.717-06:00Mr. Obregon did you fail to read the part where I ...Mr. Obregon did you fail to read the part where I specifically identified it as a rumor and where I specifically said I had no idea whether it was true or not? It seems from your liberal bias you just decided I was claiming a truth you didn't like. May I suggest you read all the words.<br />Bill KraftBill Kraft, MarketFN.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08274803638438137352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-65541983005136966152010-10-03T18:57:01.144-06:002010-10-03T18:57:01.144-06:00Wow Bill, All these years I respected your writing...Wow Bill, All these years I respected your writing and your opinion. I've even considered buying one of your books to try and hone my trading skills. <br /><br />Not now!! Anybody who would stoop to spreading rumours gets no respect from me. I don't know what your agenda is with that editorial but your should reconsider your objective.<br /><br />I'm not going to unsubscribe but only because the rest of the newsletter is still worth reading.<br /><br />Grant Johnston, Chico, CAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-84904970571775229462010-10-03T10:10:02.945-06:002010-10-03T10:10:02.945-06:00Come on Bill, this has been going on for YEARS,,,F...Come on Bill, this has been going on for YEARS,,,FED's ppt ,,job....Congressman Ron Paul will concur....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-40105291331727474112010-10-03T10:08:50.706-06:002010-10-03T10:08:50.706-06:00I believe the rumor is probably referring to the F...I believe the rumor is probably referring to the Fed rolling the funds back into the markets through their POMO activities. Similar to the Fed's quantitative easing that pumped up the markets. <br />M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-23619384958613194212010-10-03T10:05:54.099-06:002010-10-03T10:05:54.099-06:00Such a manipulation would serve only the interests...Such a manipulation would serve only the interests of the manipulators and not the honest interests of those whom they were elected to serve. If our markets and our country are to survive, we the people must not allow such manipulation. Government of the people, by the people, and for the people appears near death and market manipulation would be a serious symptom of the illness leading to the ultimate demise . The allegations are worse per economic system . How do banks buy stocks . I was not aware they were allowed to do this per reserve regulations etc. Please explain. Yes some bank do own stock of other companies , but they are related to the banking business and they are held as a holding company . eg BAC and ML . I think that Federal Reserve Policy is driving the market . Most investors know that the US is through as a third class corrupt county base upon the people not taking back the constitional rights from two Royal parties , that advertise themselve by lies into office and then steal . And so what because you can call these thieves thieves and have proof of it , and it is all a game to them . We all die of sin , these individual make sure the whole county die because of them .<br />Others call them Hitlerites or betrayer of American or of treason , but again who cares as HItler rose to power as a phophet of the reglory of the Hun and revenger of the inflation placed upon them by war reperation of France . The same hyper inflation we might have if the rest of the world did not have debt . China has to stop selling us products that can be made in the United States, but quite frankly , the Chinese have a society of sharing and family , we don't . Henry Ford , taught men to work as machines , but now there is no career for a man to work as a machine , and China know this and has maybe 10x the amount of engineers we have willing to work at cheap labor . OK , why then should a US student study engineering Doctor get paid no where the amt of US Doctors . <br />Lawyer are not needed as much as Chinese law is plain and favors the State . Criminal get swift justice . The corrupt state is assumed to be the Chinese politician who has to stay in business like a Mafia leader which means no cheating and conforming to a Plan that can be implemented by the leaders. Real leadership is at the top , unlike here , who make decisions that can lose him his permanent job , not his 4 year job. The idea here of an unlimited term actually worked with FDR and somehow this had to change to make patronage an equal activity . Ike idea of a military industial complex became an accomplished fact . The politician like in Florida running for Senate are accused of misappropriation of funds ( Meaks etc.) and no one arrests them . It goes on and on. <br />As LONG AS THE UNITED STATES DOESNT HAVE TO PAY BIG BUCKS ON THE DEBT US ECONOMY WILL BE OK. THE US DOLLAR HAS TO SINK TO NOTHING TO DO THIS , SO THAT THE US IMPORT OF OIL HAS TO INCREASE IN PRICE . THE ASSHOLE OBAMA , IS PAYING OFF POLITICIAN BY SO CALLED ROAD PROJECTS . THIS WAS GOOD IN THE 1920 AND NOT NEEDED NOW . THIS IS THE RESPONSIBLITY OF THE STATES . -ROADS . OBAMA CLEANING UP THE GULF SOUNDS GOOD BUT THE RESPONSIBILITY NOW IF FOR BP TO DO THIS PER THEIR DAMAGES . THE KILL ZONES OF POLLUTIONS ARE POISONING FISH SO AS TO KILL THE US CIT POPULATIONS WITH CANCERS THAT THE US SPONCERS PLACE LIKE WAL MART IMPORT FISH , INSTEAD OF GETTING IT FROM KNOW KILL ZONES The people news social stuides courses in school is HOW CORRUPT IS THE UNITED STATES SYSTEM, AND WHY WE LOST OUR FAVOR WITH G-D AND NATIONS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-28060245401097213122010-10-03T10:00:17.215-06:002010-10-03T10:00:17.215-06:00I'm sorry but I started investing in the marke...I'm sorry but I started investing in the market maybe 14 years ago & my life savings are deeply in the red. If you think for 1 minute that the word "integrity" & wall street belong in the same sentence, well, I totally disagree wholeheartedly. If there is manipulation it is the Republicans as much or more as the democrats, both being guilty,imo.<br />Now that we've bailed everyone else in the world out but me & GW Bush drained the coffers of excess monies left to him to run the country & started a "mission accomplished" 3 trillion $ war that we will never ever be able to get away from. It will literally drain us.<br />Greenspan & his bubbles & his low interest rates & now the same have literally ruined most seniors lucky enough to have a few $$ in a CD, is null/void now. It's purely disgusting.<br />We've literally ruined baby boomer investing & 401k's & there isn't 1 iota of trust w/most of my friends of 60 yrs of age. Most now have lost their jobs & their money in the stock markets & now the Republicans want to take our Social Security away that I paid into my whole life. I get nothing from no 1 & it's not cheap for a woman alone to run a household. <br />I personally just cashed in 1 other investment in the market chunk so as to fix up my house so I @least have a roof over my head. I don't want anything I don't have some control over in this market ever again, & will not ever again. When my friends ask me & are interested & younger people, I tell them the same thing. Either learn something about the stock market & use protection in your investments or don't trust all your eggs in 1 basket. I'm sorry I've ever heard of wall street & will be as long as I live.<br /> <br />I'm a very sad American w/the status quo just the last 12-15 years that i've seen & read & know about politics & wall street.<br />A stock market scalper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-6599550385405580072010-10-03T09:57:34.493-06:002010-10-03T09:57:34.493-06:00Re: your political comments of 10-20-10 SHOUT IT F...Re: your political comments of 10-20-10 SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOF TOPS, SHOUT IT AT EVERY POLLING STATION & call the funeral directors.!!! Unless there is a tsunami of a change on Election day, America ,as we knew it, is dead & awaiting burial.<br />A disheartened AmericanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-56907918163906866202010-10-03T09:27:13.682-06:002010-10-03T09:27:13.682-06:00Sorry - if you don't believe that the market i...Sorry - if you don't believe that the market is being manipulated right now. Listen to this technical strategist on CNBC Europe <br /><br />http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1601032652&play=1 <br /><br />He suggests that this is the Fed trying to let the market down slowly rather than a tumble - but it will go down. You have a chance - protect yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-26027160645808467672010-10-03T06:50:05.036-06:002010-10-03T06:50:05.036-06:00I believe that market manipulation is only a short...I believe that market manipulation is only a short term deal only available in times where there is no significant trend. During times of consolidation there are opportunities to manipulate but it seems to me that the impatience of market participants eventually leads to cleaning out this short term views. The overall market is much bigger than any one entity or a handful of collaborating ones. Soros vs Bank of England comes to mind. If I know what the governments going to do then I will certainly find a way to take their money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-75728267096950893112010-10-02T19:26:02.057-06:002010-10-02T19:26:02.057-06:00bill, I Don't have proof either,but I have hea...bill, I Don't have proof either,but I have heard rumors that corporate folks are holding back on hiring,lending,and are delaying signs of recovery until they can de-power Pres. Obamma and get a congress full of corporate puppets and right wing nut jobs.bill moseleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-82059632922378570642010-10-02T15:35:15.752-06:002010-10-02T15:35:15.752-06:00Personally, you just lost all credibility, further...Personally, you just lost all credibility, furthering this form of misinformation, and it does not excuse you to say you don't know. You belong in Fox News, who will distort the news to further their political agenda.G. Obregonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30128229.post-16893685108350473002010-10-02T14:02:46.241-06:002010-10-02T14:02:46.241-06:00JKorhonen, there is no doubt in my mind that penny...JKorhonen, there is no doubt in my mind that penny stocks are extremely dangerous. They are cheap for a very good reason and doubtlessly are sometimes manipulated through advertisement and recommendations by persons in interest.<br />Bill KraftBill Kraft, MarketFN.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08274803638438137352noreply@blogger.com